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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9895834/Mining-tycoon-unveils-plan-to-build-Titanic-2-with-extra-lifeboats.html

 

 

The ship will be a pretty faithful replica of the original but have enough lifeboats (probably because of modern safety regulations) the hull will be welded instead of riveted and the internal bulkheads will go to the top, it will have no TV, no internet access but will have air conditioning, modern hospital and a helipad that could be disguised when not in use, the passengers will find early 20th century-style clothing in their room should they wish to dress up and pretend they are aboard the original ship.

I'm absolutely fascinated by everything Titanic ... I'd sail on the proposed 2016 Southampton to New York voyage if I could afford it.

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It will be built of modern steel as well, of much better quality than the original.  The Charpy V-notch testing of specimens from the raised fragment of the original Titanic revealed that the nil ductility temperature of the steel was higher than the water temperature.  In a word, the steel was crap, subject to brittle failure.

 

John

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one of my lesser claims to fame is that capt. Smith was married to my great aunt, i am reliably informed of this by my grandfather who has a seat in his name in Lichfield cathederal, nearbye in a small park is a statue to captain smith and as a youngster was always told this story , I have in my possesion all the birth certificates etc from that side of the family back to before 1830 so it should be quite easy to get a family tree showing their positions on it.

 

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I wonder what the cost difference will be in building the ship in today's times compared to the original. The decor is amazing and has a certain flair that is missing today.

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I wonder what the cost difference will be in building the ship in today's times compared to the original. The decor is amazing and has a certain flair that is missing today.

I agree with you, todays ships are just floating hotels attached to computers. sure they may be safer and ultra modern, but they are Soulless! If you look at pics of the older liners they are so much more gracefull,  One of the reasons for this is the hull design, Older ships have a beautiful curving sheerline (this is the main deck level that goes from stem to stern, veiwed from just off the bow or stern you can see it has a distinct curve downwards towards the centre of the ship.)This Sheerline dictated as to how the rest of the accomodation blocks above would look. Most modern cruisers are dead flat hence their apartment block appearance. Ships of the early 20th century right up until the late 60s were simply far more aestheticlly pleasing with absolute attention to detail, (given the technology available). After the Titanic disaster new regulations made the newer ships a lot safer, especially when it came to watertight compartments and lifeboats etc. Probably the most famous of these pre-war liners is the Queen Mary still moored at Long Beach. Ships like the Canberra and the QE2 were late 60s designs and were transitional designs between the early ships and the new package holiday look of todays vessels, the Biggest of these ships was the SS France, later to become the Norway. 

I think the idea of a new Titanic is a fantastic idea. It first came to light a few years ago but never went beyond the idea stage. If this ship actually gets built she will become the most famous ship in the world, No question! No doubt tickets would be in the upper end of the market but that's as it should be. Titanic was never a holiday cruise ship. She was a fast passenger transport and therefore would not attract all the usual tourist crowds. I look forward to seeing this ship enter the water.

This link shows the worlds largest passenger ship currently in use, the Oasis of the seas. Not what you'd call pretty is she!

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg

And a list of the current largest Passenger Ships. Tankers etc are a hell of a lot bigger!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_world's_largest_cruise_ships

Finally a pic of the SS France, the biggest of the old generation.

http://images56.fotki.com/v714/photos/1/192066/3188222/france001-vi.jpg

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Yeah they do look like cargo/cattle ships now a days. Never had the urge to go on a cruise although I have been asked a few times. There are plenty of other places I would rather go for a vacation to visit and they do not include floating cities. :D

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This was the fastest one of them all, she still holds the speed records for the fastest transatlantic crossing by a passenger ship. the SS United States, Unlike many she still exists, though in a poor state, tied up in Philadelphia as far as I know.

http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/gallery/week/tr100312/05shippg-horizontal.jpg

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dayHvE8683U/TzKsCJcvPkI/AAAAAAAAAFw/T2FZ2YiuLhI/s1600/phil+017.jpg

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I'd love to. As long as they don't stop for ice.

But he's never gonna build it. He's been talking about it for years. You'll never be able to get enough people to sustain a cruise ship without modern conveniences. The TItanic was designed for the trans-Atlantic paaenger service. That market no longer exists. The replica is cool and nostalgic, but you can't run a cruise line on nostalgia alone. Today's crowd want rock climbing walls and putting greens and casinos and floating shopping malls. Somehow I don't see this ship cruising the Caribbean. And who is going to want to give up internet access?

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This was the fastest one of them all, she still holds the speed records for the fastest transatlantic crossing by a passenger ship. the SS United States, Unlike many she still exists, though in a poor state, tied up in Philadelphia as far as I know.

http://i.usatoday.net/travel/_photos/gallery/week/tr100312/05shippg-horizontal.jpg

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dayHvE8683U/TzKsCJcvPkI/AAAAAAAAAFw/T2FZ2YiuLhI/s1600/phil+017.jpg

 

She's in a bad looking state compared to her former self. :(  Worth more in steel than historical value. :(  :(  

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I guess I'd rather be on one of the new ones and see the Titanic replica sail by - that would take care of any nostalgic longings.  I prefer a sliding glass door and a balcony rather than a porthole.  I'm a maritime buff and a railroad buff, in addition to being plane nuts, but having been on a number of cruises on the floating hotels, I kind of like them.  As ships, they are only moderately interesting (function over form), but it's a great hotel with great food, service and entertainment, with the advantage that it moves from port to port - hotels don't do so all that much.

 

It's not as if the new Titanic is going to be a steamer - diesels, probably diesel electric, just like the floating hotels.  

 

The whole Titanic saga is a thoroughly fascinating piece of history, however.

 

I agree with Seatac - the replica will probably never be built anyway. This guy's accountants (or his heir's accountants) will bring him to his senses sooner or later.  If he seeks additonal investors he'll have a hard time finding many.

 

John

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"Just like in 1912, there will be three passenger classes who will not be allowed to mingle. Even the gym and the swimming pool are near identical to those on the 1912 ship, despite much more modern alternatives being available."

Just when civilisation has done away with classes of "US" and "THEM" some moron with more money than sense thinks it will be a good idea to bring it back in the shape of a ship and hiding it by calling it 'Titanic' and claiming to want to recreate the original! Great, the First class eat lobster with the captain while steerage get microwave meals? (Or similar) after paying obscene amouts of money just for the privilage of being on the Titanic. Sorry but I think the thought no tv or interweb will sink this ship faster than an iceberg! :P

My 10p worth

Glen

Ps. How would we be able to check in with the Hangar? ;)

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Titanic replica may be safer, but what if another billionaire is currently building a replica of that 1912 iceberg?

 

Ray.

LOL, May be safer building a replica of the Carpathia!

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Just when civilisation has done away with classes of "US" and "THEM" some moron with more money than sense thinks it will be a good idea to bring it back in the shape of a ship and hiding it by calling it 'Titanic' and claiming to want to recreate the original! Great, the First class eat lobster with the captain while steerage get microwave meals? (Or similar) after paying obscene amouts of money just for the privilage of being on the Titanic. Sorry but I think the thought no tv or interweb will sink this ship faster than an iceberg! :P

My 10p worth

Glen

 

 

I did think that odd Glen, but without getting overly political our country (UK) seems to be heading back to that route anyway as regards have and have nots :whis:

 

I think the guy might be going a bit too far with nostalgic realism!

 

Someone in this thread mentioned that this guy has a bit of a reputation for grand idea's that never come to fruition and I've heard that too, but apparently there is going to be a big announcement on Monday regarding this project, would be nice to see this dream come true ... if it does I can see Internet access being allowed and probably losing the class thing too, if not I'll be doing a Jack Dawson and be on the look out for First Class down to earth Lady's like Kate Winslet with rich snooty husbands and at the same time keeping an eye out for icebergs so that I can actually make it from A to B :P

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Looks like this is going to be a reality, heard on Radio Scotland about this yesterday that ticket allocation is way over subscribed and first class tickets will be about 1 million GBP, Kennedy family have booked cabins apparently!

 

Also a guy on another forum I frequent was at the press launch today  ...

 

well i've just come back from the press launch at the Ritz in London. the rudder is a dummy. under that are three four bladed 360' pods. two bow thrusters. one extra deck than the old ship. called the safety deck. with two rows of Atlantic lifeboats holding over 200 in each. there will be three classes, no computer or wifi for passengers. the sat domes and radar are in the first two funnels as are public viewing decks. they are about to sign the contract for work to start.
now who wants a ticket?

 

 

Wish i could afford it :stars:

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I would as long as I could take a pair of Binoculars to see whats coming, a Dry Suit to keep me nice and warm and a Jet Pack to get the H_ _L out of there. :pilotic:

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Looking at this again (I love everything Titanic) how incredibly well cast by Cameron were some actors in the film?

 

The Unsinkable Molly Brown

 

molly-brown.jpg

 

Kathy Bates.

 

Kathy_Bates-titanic_003.jpg

 

They could have been sisters!

 

 

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If I win the compensation case against the hospital then I may well be able to afford it...........hopefully! :D

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Dredging up an old topic here - just found a Wiki article about it and it seems as if the project is dead in the water and they have not yet begun to cut steel...

 

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Titanic II is a planned ocean liner, to be built as a modern-day replica of the Olympic-class RMS Titanic. The new ship will have a gross tonnage (GT) of 56,000 while the original ship measured about 46,000 gross register tons (GRT).[note 1] The project was announced by Australian millionaire Clive Palmer in April 2012, as the flagship of a proposed cruise company Blue Star Line Pty. Ltd. of Brisbane, Australia.[4] The intended launch date was originally set in 2016,[5] with the ship sailing from Southampton to New York within the same year.[6][7] However, construction of the ship has been delayed to 2018.[8] As of July 2017, construction is yet to commence.[9]

 

I don't think it's going to happen.

 

John

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