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Britain’s new F-35 stealth fighters to arrive next week

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(Well four of them) Britain currently has 15 F-35Bs – the short take off and vertical landing variant of the jets – based in the US, and has pledged to purchase 138 in total. They are expected to be followed by five more F35s at the beginning of August. 617 squadron on stand by please!

 

More here: https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/29/britains-new-9000000000-f-35-stealth-fighters-arrive-next-week-7585795/amp/

 

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to many zeros for my head.....how much? is that per plane or the whole deal?

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Expensive toys for sure.  Hopefully by the time the RN gets theirs we'll see a lot more of them over Portsmouth.

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 There's another side to the economics for your country, however.  
 
"British companies say their involvement in the F-35 jet production is boosting business"
 
https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2018/01/17/british-companies-say-their-involvement-in-the-f-35-jet-producti/?guccounter=1
 
 "...15% of each aircraft will be UK made."
 
"...the programme has generated 12.9 billion dollars in contracts for British suppliers."
 
"The company which is based in Middlesex said their involvement with the programme will sustain approximately 700 jobs."

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I for one am looking forward to seeing the aircraft in service. For sure it's not pretty, but then neither was the Harrier.  Many people, myself included, have been very sceptical about the purchase of these things, especially given the time scale and unit price where we could have got something proven in service for a lot less. That said the current crop of top range naval aircraft is now several years out of date compared to F-35 and by adopting it it will give our Air Force and Navy a quantum jump ahead of the game. Whether it can deliver remains to be seen , it has big boots to fill to achieve the Harrier and Jaguars service life which is essentially what it will be replacing. Time will tell but I hope it's good news. 

 

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I've taken quite a bit of interest in this thread. I was in the Marine Corps Air Wing, and one of my active duty stations was the Marine Corps Air Station at Beaufort, South Carolina. I was there for a couple of years, and I was excited to learn that British pilots have been training in F-35Bs at Beaufort. I did a screenshot of what it might look like when the first F-35B arrives at Marham. I'll have some new FSX AI flights to set up, that's for sure!

 

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Nice picture! Looking forward to seeing these up close.

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For me the important thing about the arrival of these aircraft is that Britain is another step near having a credible naval air power again. 

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On ‎29‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 11:32, mutley said:

Whole deal Wayne, they love to bandy around all those zeros!

 

EDIT: They cost a mere £100 million each! https://www.forces.net/news/f-35b-jets-set-arrive-uk-next-week

I thought that the whole ethos of the JSF and F-35 program was for an affordable plane?!!

I think that it was a BIG mistake to retire the Harrier when they did.  I bet there was still more life in it.  Sure, it was an old design.....but so is the B-52 and that is still going strong!

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10 hours ago, Tristarcaptain said:

 

I think that it was a BIG mistake to retire the Harrier when they did.  I bet there was still more life in it.  Sure, it was an old design.....but so is the B-52 and that is still going strong!

The stupid thing is is the Royal Navy still has a number of them that they use for ground handling training and other related stuff. All perfectly useable and regularly run, they just aren't allowed to fly them! Harrier should have stayed in service until the F-35 was ready for deployment. But that's this country all over, they make stupid decisions and then regret it! When the Falklands Conflict started Margaret Thatcher wanted to send the Ark Royal down there,.....until she was informed that the previous government had scrapped it to save money! So no Buccaneers or Phantoms available to hit the Argies with.  The Buccs would have flattened Goose green and Stanley airfields as precision bombing was their speciality. The procurement decisions made by this country are laughable, so many screw ups it's unreal! 

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42 minutes ago, dodgy-alan said:

The stupid thing is is the Royal Navy still has a number of them that they use for ground handling training and other related stuff. All perfectly useable and regularly run, they just aren't allowed to fly them! Harrier should have stayed in service until the F-35 was ready for deployment. But that's this country all over, they make stupid decisions and then regret it! When the Falklands Conflict started Margaret Thatcher wanted to send the Ark Royal down there,.....until she was informed that the previous government had scrapped it to save money! So no Buccaneers or Phantoms available to hit the Argies with.  The Buccs would have flattened Goose green and Stanley airfields as precision bombing was their speciality. The procurement decisions made by this country are laughable, so many screw ups it's unreal! 

 

(Martin doing his best to impersonate Basil Fawlty from the episode 'The Germans')

 

"Don't mention the TSR2!"

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On ‎07‎/‎06‎/‎2018 at 22:36, dodgy-alan said:

First 4 down , one turned back, Impressive beasts I must say.

 

I am glad to see we have a return to manufacture guarantee on them!

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They do indeed look beefy machines. All that power just at your fingertips. Good stuff.

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