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currently have a 23inch Acer from around 2011, need upgrade, roughly same size.....budget no more than £200.......not sure what are good specs, don't understand 60hz thing, or is 120 better?.......TV or monitor whats best?

 

PC SPECS-

GTX 1070 8GB

Z170A

KINGSTON 2400 RAM (16GB)

i5 6600K @4.2

 

 

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Wayne

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Afraid i can't help with this one..

I have 3x 32" LGs so i'm stuffed if something happens to one of them.

All i remember from what hubby said is that they shoud be identical and have the same spec..

hope some of the other MH gang can help

HNY :-)

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Look for something with an IPS panel as these give better colour representation and 60hz is fine also look for any that are 1440p resolution but I suspect that res might be more than you want to pay.

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You'll probably do better, price-wise, with a TV.  

 

1080 lines of resolution or better, i.e, 1920 X 1080 or better native resolution.  

 

LED types run cooler, LCDs are generally cheaper.  Neither is a huge heat source but there is a difference.

 

Don't know about 120 Hz option - have only ever used 60 Hz devices but that seems fine.

 

Re connectors, be sure new display has a VGA, DVI or DP output port.  My experience with an  HDMI port on display to HDMI port on graphics card was not very good - switching from VGA on display (same unit)  to DP port on graphics card (also same unit) using an adaptor improved display quality tremendously.   You can buy adaptors in most any configuration to bridge from one port configuration on the display to another kind on your graphics card if needed but if it were me, based on my experience, I'd reject any display with only HDMI output.

 

Take my advice with a grain of salt if a REAL expert chimes in.

 

John

 

 

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thanks for the advice guys, are you recommending a monitor over a TV? currently have PS4 and PC connected to my monitor by HDMI....

 

Main reason for change is this monitor is about 6 years old, I assumed maybe newer ones = better more clear picture, am I wrong?

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13 minutes ago, wain said:

I assumed maybe newer ones = better more clear picture, am I wrong?

 

Maybe not.  See what I said above about HDMI connection.  

 

I don't see it worth the extra money for a monitor over a television.

 

John

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1 hour ago, wain said:

thanks for the advice guys, are you recommending a monitor over a TV? currently have PS4 and PC connected to my monitor by HDMI....

 

Main reason for change is this monitor is about 6 years old, I assumed maybe newer ones = better more clear picture, am I wrong?

I assumed maybe newer ones = better more clear picture, am I wrong?

Thats correct, i suspect your current display will have a TN panel but do look for an IPS panel as i have already mentioned as these are more clearer and show better colours.

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TV vs monitor is really only an issue when looking at big panels (say 42" and up). Below that, look for a monitor with an IPS panel. 1080p (1920 x 1080) or 1440p (2560 x 1440) if you can stretch to it.

 

If it doesn't say it's an IPS panel, then it probably isn't (it'll likely be a TN panel & the same quality as your current one). Remember too that poor quality monitors are considered an eyesight hazard if you spend any significant amount of time in front of them.

 

My monitor is connected via HDMI and I've had zero issues. Make sure the cable you get is HDMI2 compliant, otherwise it may not support higher resolutions (don't be fooled into buying a really expensive cable: the signals are digital, they either work or they don't. A £100 "professional" cable is no better than a £6 "Basics" cable from Amazon. Just make sure it supports HDMI2.0.

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Cheers Tim.

I must admit, I had no idea there was more than 1 type of HDMI cable.

Type 2 ordered.

Thanks.

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On 12/31/2017 at 11:57, allardjd said:

clip.......... based on my experience, I'd reject any display with only HDMI output.

 

 

I'm not real clear on this statement. Are you saying you would reject the video card (output - outgoing HDMI signal) or the monitor/tv display (input - incoming HDMI signal)? Or is the passing of digital signals a back-and-forth sort of arrangement?

 

I've always been less than satisfied with my displays. Not for the scenery - that's OK. My system happily runs REX, ORBX, and the sim with no video or OOM issues. It's reading the gauges from any reasonable (eyepoint) distance that bugs me. A lot of the aircraft models available, whether FSX or P3D suffer from hard-to-read gauges. I realise that some of these shortcomings are due to aged sim packages, but I don't think I should be straining to see the gauges on a 737NGX by PMDG .

 

I'm in the throes of revisiting this whole issue. I've spent a lot of time trying to decide whether or not to try the Oculus Rift but I'm hearing less than stellar reports on the interaction between the visual sim and switches/knobs/ etc. I may be far better off going with video upgrades and a Track IR. I know we have some simmers on MH who use multi-monitors. Some use Track IR. Some say "don't use multi-monitors and Track IR".

 

Because I spent so much time aboard a boat where space was at a major premium, my computer/video card choices were limited. I'm still using that equipment. Going to the Oculus Rift will require a major change in that I'll need to upgrade the video card. This cannot be done without upgrading my enclosure, the present one being a very small form factor. I'm thinking that upgrading the box/video card/monitor should be my first move.. I'm running an LG IPS 1920X1080 - 24" monitor (D-Sub and HDMI input) on a NVIDIA GT730 GPU (D-Sub, DVI, HDMI output, supports VGA, DVI, HDMI). The NVIDIA card is a result of the available space in my enclosure (it's a 'half-height' card). Also the motherboard only has one PCI slot. 

 

My wife is going away for a trip so this will be a good time to usurp the TV and plug it in to my video card. The TV is a Samsung - a 40" 1920X1080 LED. The TV has two HDMI input ports labeled: HDMI 1 STB and HDMI 2 DVI. I'm going to assume the port marked "DVI" is the one to use. I'll also take JA's advice and go find an HDMI 2 cable. The cable might improve the video on the monitor as well. I'm not holding out much hope for the TV as that is the same resolution as the 24 inch monitor blown up to 40 inches. I'll probably wind up selling pencils on Main St.

 

I'm watching this space..............

 

Here's a 2013 link describing the cables and ports - a bit outdated: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2030669/laptop-accessories/hdmi-vs-displayport-which-display-interface-reigns-supreme.html

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13 minutes ago, Quickmarch said:

I'm not real clear on this statement. Are you saying you would reject the video card (output - outgoing HDMI signal) or the monitor/tv display (input - incoming HDMI signal)? Or is the passing of digital signals a back-and-forth sort of arrangement?

 

No, sorry to be unclear.  I had a display connected via HDMI to HDMI and the quality was poor.  With the same display and graphics card, switching to VGA (display end) to DP (graphics card end) it improved tremendously.  I blamed the HDMI output, possibly incorrectly.  I originally connected that way because I didn't have the necessary cables/adaptors to do it differently   Had to buy an adaptor to go from VGA to DP.

 

Like Brian, I didn't know there was more than one kind of HDMI. 

 

I also advised in my first post to this thread that my advice should be taken with a grain of salt if a real expert happened to come along.

 

John

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54 minutes ago, Quickmarch said:

Some use Track IR. Some say "don't use multi-monitors and Track IR".

 

I use TrackIR with two monitors and am VERY happy with it,  but I don't have the main display across both monitors. 

 

The main cockpit view is entirely on one large (32" monitor).   The second monitor is smaller and is static when TrackIR is used.  I use it for parking popups such as GPS, radio stack, charts, etc.  I find that entirely satisfactory but have no clue how TrackIR would behave if my main display was spread across two or three monitors.

 

I suspect that it might require a bit more in the way of PC and graphics card power to support a dynamic, TrackIR-driven display across two or three monitors, but that's just a guess.

 

John

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I'm thinking of @hlminx. Talk about monitor envy. I think she said she's got three 32" displays. I don't have that much wall space.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have the DP output on the video card. 

 

I'm becoming convinced that the problem lies in the forced (by form factor) choice of the GT730 video card. My tough luck that the solution is a new box+a new motherboard+a new GPU. I'm willing to bet that the 8Gig of memory mounted on my current motherboard will not be usable on a new board, so more expense incurred. I've got to hold out hope that my i7 chip can be moved over.

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I also have two monitors and use TrackIR. I use it for both one and dual-monitor FS setups. Usually I fly like John on one monitor and use the second screen for pop up windows; maps, GPS, LNM, ATC window...etc...but occasionally I dual-monitor sim and have no TrackIR issues doing so. I only have room for 21 inch monitors...two of them...and have to ignore the center bezel when I dual screen, and TrackIr helps to see around the bezel.

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Do yourself a favor and get Chaseplane March, it's great for those quick zoomed in looks when needed.   

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