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Pilot Error again. Icon A5 crash.

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Our local small aircraft company here in the SF north bay, Icon...lost another aircraft, with a customer this time, and a high profile one at that. I'm not a sports fan so Roy Halladay is just a low hours pilot (who got in over his head?)... to me, but my sincere condolences to his family, friends and fans.

 

This happened a day or so ago, and I'm relieved it seems to be a case of gross pilot error. Icon A5's look like  fun aircraft and I hope they aren't going to get a bad rap over these recent accidents. I wonder if they are so fun they seem "sprightlier" than they are actually rated to perform...perhaps encouraging this pilot's overconfidence/bad judgement?

The last accident was two employees who either made a wrong turn into a box canyon, or thought the plane could pull out of it...and couldn't...perhaps they are a bit under powered?

 

 

https://www.flyingmag.com/eyewitness-roy-halladay-was-performing-aerobatics-before-fatal-crash

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Although I have never heard of this guy, fatal is not good so RIP Roy Halladay.

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I feel sorry for the guy(RIP) and his family :( but from what I understand he had a tendency to fly in situations that were quite dangerous for this kind of aircraft.

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Reminiscent of the demise of John Denver.  New to the AC, perhaps not very familiar with it and decided sea-skimming looked like great fun.

 

For another famous baseball player who got in over his head, with too little experience in too much airplane, check here...  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurman_Munson

 

A no-flaps approach in a Citation is not a brilliant idea.

 

It was a long time ago and really hasn't all that much in common with the Icon accident except both were baseball players and both were relatively inexperienced, particularly in the AC they were flying.   In my opinion, there's much more in common with Denver than with Munson.

 

John

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A sad demise for sure, overconfidence is often the precursor to an accident like this sadly. A strange thing is that whilst many pilots love to show just how low they can go, (And I have to admit I do that as well at times,) Many racing yacht and powerboat crews do their best to get OUT of the water! Occasionally the two elements get things wrong and the results are catastrophic. 

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I love this aircraft and when I win the lottery it is what I would want to buy. Reminicent of the SeeBee it looks like s lot of fun.

 

Perhaps the manufactures are giving off the wrong signals in likening the aircraft to a jet ski. Those watercraft are if anything over powered and tempt people to throw them about the water. 

 

And remember that Jet skis kill a fair few people themselves.

 

Sad loss of life.

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I agree J.G. . It's the kind of versatile aircraft I'd like to have, cept i'd want something more Airplane-y and less Jet-ski-y... :D A venerable C-185 Amphib would be more my style.

 

Looking at their site you can see how these might appeal to Non-pilots, especially those a bit put off by the usual complicated looking aircraft cockpit...these look like Very Expensive Sports Cars inside, and at a price comparable to Lamborghinis... I suspect that VESC buyers are their target market.

 

The marketing does make them look "fun and zippy". Maybe they should back off of that just a bit during the Marketing Phase of attracting A5 Pilots to reduce rich idjits buying them and "crashing their image", rather than planning to train that attitude out of them during the A5 Flight School phase (can't teach a dumb dog a new trick basically is my point here)...as well, adding some/more Idiot Lights and buzzers might help?...like an internal AI that detects when some idjit starts flying this Aircraft as if it is a VESC. ;) 

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