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2014, hottest year on record!

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... just as 2013 was of course, in fact the ten hottest years have all occurred since 1998.

Fascinating animation of temperature over the last 135 years here...

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2014-hottest-year-on-record/

Nice animation of global temperatures from 1880 - 2014.





Nine of the ten warmest years have occurred since the year 2000, with 13 of the 15 hottest years on record globally all occurring during just the past 15 years, based on NOAA data.

The odds of this happening by chance rather than due to a combination of manmade pollution and natural climate variability — are less than 1-in-27 million, according to the climate research and journalism group Climate Central. Without global warming, one would expect warm and cold years to occur randomly over that period.

 

 

http://mashable.com/2015/01/16/2014-earth-warmest-year-not-random/

 

 

 

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Unfortunately, Martin, some think the Sun has something to do with rising temperatures, rather than our activity...

Cheers - Dai. :old-git:

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They do indeed, very true.

The sun does have something to do with rising temperatures of ocourse, and falling temperatures, for example the Maunder Minimum.

I know what you mean though, they think what we regard as man made temperature rise is all down to the sun. Trouble is they can't be bothered to look at the research. They would rather look at conspiracy theory web sites because it tells them what they wanted to hear all along.

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The odds of this happening by chance rather than due to a combination of manmade pollution and natural climate variability.....

 

That little highlighted word means a lot to me. I've heard lots of people blaming just the human race on the increasing temperature. They get a bit upset when I mention the Ice Age!

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we have had spacecraft and eyes on Mars for quite a long time... If the warming of the earth were mostly due to the effects of the Sun, would we not see climate change on Mars? the ice caps of Mars very considerably with temperature changes over the course of Mar's 2 year orbit. if the sun is the main culprit in Earth's climate changes then we should see significant changes in the size of Mars' ice caps... Are we seeing that?

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As I like to think myself an exponent of 'critical thinking' and try to use it in all areas of my life I spent some time sourcing some information related to the website my computer was directed to when I clicked the link in the previous post above.  Now when it comes to climate science I know next to nothing.  My background is in Geology and MicroBiology, so when I try to learn about MMGW I tend to gravitate towards the experts, you know, the guys and girls who have studied it all their professional lives, great institutions like NASA and the ESA, try to learn from people who have forgotten more about the subject than I will ever know. I may even pop over to arXiv.org and try and make sense of the thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers available on the subject and attempt to educate myself, as for all it's failings, the scientific method is the best way humans have ever devised to unravel the mysteries of the universe.  

 

Or alternatively I could just go to ClimateDepot.org and give myself the internets version of a frontal lobotomy.  

 

Just in the interests of transparency, here is a little info about ClimateDepot.com and it's shill of a boss Marc Morano.

 

Marc Morano runs the climate denial website ClimateDepot.com. He previously worked for Rush Limbaugh and Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) -- both vocal climate change deniers.

Although he has no scientific background, Morano has declared that the science of manmade climate change is "collapsing."

He has called global warming a "con job" and said that climate scientists "deserve to be publicly flogged."

Morano often appears on Fox News to spread misinformation on climate change, and Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly used his material to attack climate scientists.

Climate Depot is sponsored by the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT), a conservative think tank that has received funding from ExxonMobil and Chevron.

 

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Climate_Depot

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545#morano

 

http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/12/27/climate-change-misinformer-of-the-year-marc-mor/191878

 

That is all. 

 

Regards,

M.

 

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These sources just get worse.  Do you ever research the people who fill your head with this nonsense.  Your right wing politics dictate your beliefs, not facts.

 

On Peter Ferrara,

 

I am Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy for the Heartland Institute, Senior Advisor for Entitlement Reform and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation, General Counsel for the American Civil Rights Union, and Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis. I served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush. I am a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School, and the author most recently of America's Ticking Bankruptcy Bomb (New York: Harper Collins, 2011).

 

Not a Climate Scientist then?  Fantastic.

 

Some of the comments on the page make more sense than his crappy rhetoric,

 

 

"Cherry-picking right wing ideologues to write a book whose conclusions were known prior to writing the book isn’t science.

It’s propaganda. Just like this “contribution” is".

 

"There’s no science in science. All of the REAL scientists work for political think tanks and write editorials in the WSJ and Forbes. That’s where the REAL science is happening. There’s no such thing as global warming, or evolution. HIV doesn’t cause AIDS. Vaccines cause autism. And GMOs will kill you".

 

"Science is about how hard you believe and how loud you can shout. It has nothing to do with evidence".

 

It's obvious to me that you have real issues regarding how modern media works.  When you cannot separate facts from PR it can start to become a real problem.

 

Regards,

M.

 

 

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The odds of this happening by chance rather than due to a combination of manmade pollution and natural climate variability.....

 

That little highlighted word means a lot to me. I've heard lots of people blaming just the human race on the increasing temperature. They get a bit upset when I mention the Ice Age!

 

 

 

You would have to elaborate in regard to the context when you mention the ice age. But yes, it's not just the human race that's responsible for climate change. Solar activity, volcanism, ocean current fluctuations, all of these factors have to be considered and accounted for. But a significant percentage of the warming we have experienced since the industrial revolution, is a direct result of our emissions.

 

 

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Ha, not the dreaded Heartlands Institute again. :)

The very organisation that some years ago, joined forces with Phillip Morris and told us smoking wasn't bad for us. The organisation that misinterpreted scientific evidence on smoking, and attacked the scientists doing the research... exactly the same strategy the Heartland Institute is adopting in the climate change debate.

Did I mention the Heartlands Institutes connections with big oil? What was it... $676,000 from Exon I recall.

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statistics, damn statistics and outright lies, one group of scientists are proposing a new ice age based on the fact that ocean temperatures are dropping dramatically and this is why we have had far less hurricanes than normal over the last 3 years, another group is saying the hole in the ozone is getting larger whilst another says it is getting smaller, it is all scare tactics to get some government or another to fund their research which amounts to much moolah in their pockets over the next 5 years

they are as bad as the pharmacuticals, who can releave the symptoms of many illnesses but surprise, surprise have never found the cure for anything.

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Oh no, not another loon.  Admit it Nigel, you just made all that up.   :rofl:

 

Trust me Nigel, cyclones are a passion of mine and I can say with total confidence that what you said regarding hurricanes, was utter rubbish.

 

Regards,

M. 

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The odds of this happening by chance rather than due to a combination of manmade pollution and natural climate variability.....

 

That little highlighted word means a lot to me. I've heard lots of people blaming just the human race on the increasing temperature. They get a bit upset when I mention the Ice Age!

 

 

 

You would have to elaborate in regard to the context when you mention the ice age. But yes, it's not just the human race that's responsible for climate change. Solar activity, volcanism, ocean current fluctuations, all of these factors have to be considered and accounted for. But a significant percentage of the warming we have experienced since the industrial revolution, is a direct result of our emissions.

 

 

As in, how did it finish when we were not polluting the atmsophere like today

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As in, how did it finish when we were not polluting the atmsophere like today

 

 

 

 

 

Ice ages are caused by complicated interactions between factors like solar output, the Earth's distance from the sun, position of the continents, height of the continents, ocean currents, and of course the composition of the atmosphere. These factors can cause an ice age, and end an ice age.

 

Plate tectonics is likely to be responsible for cooling over the ultra long timescale.

 

You may be interested to know that the ice age hasn't ended, we are still in the midst of the third major cooling period that began around 3 million yets ago.

 

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Oh no, not another loon.  Admit it Nigel, you just made all that up.   :rofl:

 

Trust me Nigel, cyclones are a passion of mine and I can say with total confidence that what you said regarding hurricanes, was utter rubbish.

 

Regards,

M. 

 

having spent the first 20 years of my life in the bahamas and still conversing with my school friends i can say without bfear of contradiction that the last 3 years have produced less big hurricanes than the last 20 years

Fact

despite each year NOAA predicting a higher than normal quantity of grade 4 hurricanes

 

just shows what they know

 

they are great at tracking a real one but prediction wise they are on a par with SIR Michael Fish

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Oh no, not another loon.  Admit it Nigel, you just made all that up.   :rofl:

 

Trust me Nigel, cyclones are a hobby of mine and I can say with total confidence that what you said regarding hurricanes, was utter rubbish.

 

Regards,

M. 

 

Not liking your attitude markhudson6 if you start getting personal I will ban you.

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I have family living in Grand Cayman and spend portions of the hurricane season out there every year.  I was amongst the first people allowed back on island after Ivan.  Since then I have witnessed first hand two major hurricanes effecting the area, one the largest hurricane on record in the Caribbean, ever. 

 

For the past few years NOAA have predicted a below average hurricane season.  

 

Sea surface temps, and more significantly deeper ocean temps (up to 200m) where unprecedented during the 2014 season, especially in the Gulf of Mexico.  

 

NOAA has predicted hurricane frequency and tracks more successfully in the last decade than in recorded history, hardly Michael Fish.

 

Regards,

M. 

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statistics, damn statistics and outright lies, one group of scientists are proposing a new ice age based on the fact that ocean temperatures are dropping dramatically and

 

"The 2014 global average ocean temperature was also record high, at 0.57°C (1.03°F) above the 20th century average of 16.1°C (60.9°F), breaking the previous records of 1998 and 2003 by 0.05°C (0.09°F). Notably, ENSO-neutral conditions were present during all of 2014."

"Much of the record warmth for the globe can be attributed to record warmth in the global oceans."

From...

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

If you have any links to "plummeting ocean temperatures" I'd be interested to see them!

 

 

sea-surface-temp-figure1-2014.png

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1,700 jets..... that will help the carbon in the atmosphere then.  Was this a summit on global warming or a summit to cause global warming? 

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Was this a summit on global warming or a summit to cause global warming?

 

 

In my opinion, it's a summit to cause global re-distribution of wealth, not-so-cleverly disguised as a summit on global warming - - - oops, pardon me, climate change.

 

John

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